Laws are never unjust. If people abuse a law they must be punished. but there are women who genuinely need protection under these laws.Otherwise it will only fuel demonic desires in the dowry hounds

@Leena

The sad reality is that these laws are tilted in the favour of women,forgetting that women are no saints!!Their rampant misuse has made it very clear to all of us that to presume that woman all the time behaves like lamb is sheer ignorance about the true nature of women.

It’s time to be realistic about the true nature about women but that does not mean we should try to ignore the troubles of a harassed lady.Let us heed to the wants of a genuine lady but let not at all allow the wrong women to create a heavy mess under the umbrella of women related laws !!That can only be done by amending the present laws related with crimes against women.There is urgent need to redefine the certain clauses in these laws.

@ Arvind,

Women are no saints and so are men. What do you mean by thev true nature of a women ? many men also show their true nature. Why are we generalizing nature on the basis of gender. So should I say you are gender biased ?

Also, gender biased laws were made because gender biased crimes were done on women. Dowry, in-law harrassment, subjugation of girl’s father to her father-in-law as a servent etc. What are they if not gender-biased violence ? In order to counter gender biased violence, gender biased laws were made. For your information, these days fake cases filed by women are not being considered. Such women are being punished also by the law. So you need not fear misuse. Let the women with genuine problems get justice through these laws.Any relaxqation will only fuel more of the rotten in-law mentality from the husband’s side.

@Leena

For your information, these days fake cases filed by women are not being considered. Such women are being punished also by the law.

How on earth the number of harassed husbands is increasing with each passing day if women are reporting about only genuine cases ?

Have a look at this news item : http://www.deccanherald.com/content/19204/treated-cruelly-wife-techie-ends.html#top

@Arvind,

Have you seen the number of harassed wives? The number is still much much more than harassed husbands.And why should a law change for some fake cases. Then in that case every law will have a loophole that can be taken advantage of. If we are leaving all those laws untouched why should we bother about this one ?

@Leena

So ,according to you,we should not take any steps unless the number of harassed husbands equals number of harassed wives! The laws responsible for harassed husbands should not be amended unless all other misused laws are amended as well!!

You sound like Big B in Deewar.I don’t remember what he exactly said to Shashi Kapoor but he uttered something like you.

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@Leena

One thing more. You are just speaking like a very shrewd politician.Today,it’s still not too late to take note of the flaws in women related laws and thus prevent the Indian society from going to the dogs.

But you are in favour of delay only because there are many other flawed laws as well!! So let’s not do anything and wait till situation goes out of control.Then we will take so called reformative steps knowing fully well that they are not going to produce any positive effect.You are interested in treating the cancer in the last stages.

Hats off to your wisdom !!

I think our views are more biased here. We relate to the experiences we or our immediate ones faced in their lifes and based on number of such occurances we relate and argue.

Both spouses do not deserve harassments from each of the parties, irrespective of whether these are reported or not; the laws and punishments should be just and favouring in both the situations.

@Rajagopalan S

”..The laws and punishments should be just”

That’s what I am saying.They should not used or framed in such a way to give other party undue edge.Why are so many laws framed keeping in mind the traits of earlier women? Why it’s presumed by the law makers that women can never do any wrong and therefore laws are being framed with all the wrong definition of a crime? Such an attitude is shattering the citadels of Indian society.

Leena,

your comment
”Have you seen the number of harassed wives? The number is still much much more than harassed husbands”

In today’s world Harassed husbands r more than harassed wifes.. for details check NCRB website.

Just compare with 98%[false cases] and rest 2%[genuine cases]you will know how many husbands are harassed... not only husbands but entire family.

Do u know leena, in some cases unscrupulous women name months old baby [zoya case]...is this the positive sign or a negative one?

The laws are unjust simply because there is no balance and rights for the men....the laws are unjust simply because it violated article 14 of the constitution (Equality before law). The laws are unjust because there is no misuse clause. The laws are unjust because harassment of men by women is not a crime according to the law. Yes, dowry is wrong. Nobody is asking for the law to be repealed. But that does not mean that the women can loot the men and make them their slaves! Lastly, dowry is wrong. But what about expectations of women from men? I know thousands of cases where women expect men to pay all their bills. Isn’t that another form of dowry too? How about laws to protect men???

Beware of marrying an Indian girl!

http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=15714428

http://husband_cell.rediffblogs.com/

BE CAREFUL ABOUT INDIAN MARRIAGES


PROTECT INDIAN ELDER PARENTS. HUSBAND CELL

Leena,

So what you are saying is that unconstitutional laws that also violate human rights are perfectly fine and that misuse of such laws is no reason to amend these unconstitutional laws. You are also saying that other laws also have loopholes and why those loopholes are not being plugged. May I draw your attention to the fact that even the law on murder does not treat an accused ”Guilty until proven innocent”. Even the law on murder needs evidence that is sufficient. Perjury and misuse clause exists in the case of 302. Whereas these women- centric laws treat a woman’s word as final, no proof is required, man is arrested immediately and he is held guilty until proven innocent. The woman walks away freely even when the misuse is known to the courts. So, in other words, the scope of misuse of women-centric laws is staggering and mind-blowing!!!! Even the laws on murder do not such a scope of misuse. MIND YOU, IF THIS KIND OF INJUSTICE CONTINUES, VERY SOON, MEN WILL UNITE AND WOMEN WILL GO BACK!

Leena,

Are you kidding???? Misuse of dowry laws, DV act etc is punished in rarest of rare cases only.....its a big business out there...women’s groups, cops, lawyers, judges are all minting money through this industry of 498A and DV act. IPC 498A is misused 98% of the times! Still you want the laws to continue??? Another point: You said ”Gender specific” violence was created against women. Is the father of a daughter-in-law a man or a woman??? Is the brother of a wife a man or a woman???? Lastly, gender-specific violence is inflicted against men too by women and society. Nagging, mental harassment, expectations of wife, alimony and maintenance demanded by working and educated women are also gender specific forms of violence. Do we have laws to protect men???

http://www.grouply.com/message/yahoo/humanrightsactivist/3366

Official Statistics (Source: National Crime Records Bureau)

Males
Females

Suicide of MARRIED
persons (2005-2007)
1,65,528
88,121

SUICIDE Rate (Married)
65.25%
34.75%

One SUICIDE in Every
9.52 Mins
18 Mins

Number of MURDERS
26467
7952

One Murder in Every
19Mins
66Mins

No of 498a cases in 2006-2007 by
N/A
1,39,058

Wonder, who’s in more danger & who needs protection here?
Latest Data of National Crime Records B urea


Arrested Under IPC 498A
Every 5 min. Innocent Man is Arrested
Every 23 min. Innocent Woman is Arrested
Every 2.5 Hrs. Elderly Citizen is Arrested
Every day One MINOR CHILD is Arrested


National Commission for Women
MUST be changed to
National Commission for Unscrupulous Wives
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/19204/treated-cruelly-wife-techie-ends.html#top

Treated cruelly by wife, techie ends life.

Arvind,

The ultimate purpose of feminists, capitalists, corporates and politicians is to destroy the citadels of all societies, especially, the Indian society by attacking its culture and its root - the family and marriage system.

Who benefits from feminism? Who benefits from legal terrorism???


1. Lawyers - they can mint money as their clients increase. They can also make money through extortion using feminist laws.
2. Wicked women - they know very well that the men’s rights movement is yet to take birth. They know that this is the peak of feminism, more or less and that laws, media and society is in favour of women. They hook guys, enjoy for sometime and for trivial reasons, file 498A or DV and seek a divorce. Divorce is a business for such women.
3. Police - I don’t need to elaborate on this. They know how to make money along with Lawyers and Judges.
4. Judges - They use these laws of extortion to make money.
5. Intermediatries - They could be just anywhere, in Lawyers offices to Judges private chambers. They are conduits.
6. Women’s groups. - They make money both ways. A. They make money with a well-formed racket of extortion. They contact women who have filed divorce petitions and instigate them to file cases under 498A and DV. Then, in the extortion that takes place, these groups get a share. B. As more and more cases are filed, (Mostly false), the statistics are bloated up. As it happens, these groups can claim more and more funds from the govt, MNCs and the UNO stating that the condition of women is deplorable. So, Sitas continue to suffer. Some Sitas are trapped into filing 498A charges by misleading them and Shurpanakas anyway always keep filing cases and this helps in bloating up statistics to make money. Money that is available for women’s development is misused by women’s groups [Siphioned off] and whatever is left is used to fund anti-male articles and propaganda.
7. Media - It gets its share of ’Masala’ with non-stop news and articles on women’s issues. News of rape, molestation, PUB attack, attack on women, etc is REAL MASALA for the media as people are attracted to such news. The Masala that media gets is encashed as they get more ads etc.
8. Capitalists and Corporates - One of the biggest beneficiaries of feminism. As more and more women work, their workforce increases and they get more people to work for them. As more women work, they have financial independence and this independence lead to more consumerism - more cars, bikes, beauty products, cell phones etc. As more women work, there are bound to be ego clashes at home between men and women. This ego clash together with feminist extremism and laws lead to more criminal cases and divorces. This in turn leads to duplication of consumer products [If a family of four is sharing a single house, with 4 cots, 2 sofas sets, two bathrooms etc, now when this family breaks, they would need two houses, one sofas set extra, one more Fridge, one more T.V. set etc]. Divorce leads to duplication and increases the overall income of capitalists and corporates. Pharmaceutical companies benefit as more psychiatric and medicines for depression are consumed by deppressed divorcees and their children. Psychiatrists and Counsellors get more business.
9. Politicians - Divide and rule is their policy always. By creating new problems in society, they can stay in power and mint money. Feminist leaders such as Brinda Karat, Renuka Choudhary ride on the women’s vote by making new anti-male laws and passing it off as women’s empowerment. None of these politicians want real development of women.

@LEENA
May the number of harassed wives are more than harassed husbands..but you can make laws by ”virtue” of that innocent people can suffer...try to understand senior citizens, infants are getting behind the bars....innocent husbands are losing their jobs...Do you ever been in jail? How can those innocent people get their normal life after being jailed?